Doesn't matter anyway now. But since I actually respect my transgender friends, I am going to ask them for their opinions and I am going to ask them to look at this thread and my arguments and speak for themselves. I can say I have a precise idea on what we should do with Alluka (of course, it's not an almighty solution), but I don't want to spark another debate. Just for you to reread and reflect upon at a later date so that perhaps you'll have a change of opinion when you're in a different mind set and also so that other people can read your arguments responses and your comments towards those responses. Damn, man. BUT you chose to ignore this, going around and forcing in our throats that Alluka Going back to my point, we could just use gender neutral pronouns. The fact is, they straight-up do not have the same speech patterns.Alluka's use of atashi has nothing to do with Nanika, because Nanika doesn't use atashi. I think that the only problem here should be: are we 100% sure that Alluka is a transgender before adding it to his/her page (leaving aside the "No fictional characters in the other best-selling manga is addressed with pronouns not matching his/her biological gender since he/she does not exist" matter and whether or not Togashi really wants us to know the gender of certain characters)? Do you disagree that the comment I quoted was transphobic, a quote that equivilates to, 'gender identity doesn't matter, biological sex does'?
I'm aware that the names are in the trivia section, but I'm talking about replacing the names they have on their titles. Furthermore, I didn't say you had to exit this conversation entirely, but rather saying you shouldn't talk about trans issues. she just isnt comfortable with it and chose female. Gosh, how I hate to butt in here again, but I NEED to give you a rational answer. Secondly, I assume you are getting frustrated by the memes and gifs; the joke's on you as well, since you let those provoke you. Many things cited in this page are a result of a misunderstanding of how Japanese works as a language, on "Pronouns are used less frequently in the Japanese language than in many other languages,In Japanese, the most important indicator of a character/person's gender is their first person pronoun. Start talking to people when you can listen or read, not just spout only _your_ vision of _others'_ words. Anyways, what I wanted to say was saying you won't change her gender until there's 'solid proof' is ridiculous. She is a female gendered being (she calls herself a girl), even though we don't even know if she is a sexed animal, and not a personality. I don't try to argue with the fact, just offering some So, that's why I'm leaning towards human error/evolving character due to haste in production and tight schedule given his talent. I'm not saying that is the CORRECT solution, just a possible one. And the fact all of the servants refer to Alluka as "young master/bocchan" also points towards the fact Alluka is indeed biologically male.
One more reason to not show this thread now, that's a total disgrace. About why gender is important? However, I hope you can understand my unwillingness to contact them. I do hope Alluka turns out to be a Dark Continent calamity. Nanika and Alluka kind of belong together so even if Nanika is not out, she's still inside of Alluka so in my opinion it still makes sense to call the chapter "siblings" to be not exclusive of Nanika, even though she did not appear in the chapter. I understand that if you didn't deny that fact that you are a man, your life may have been harder, but people have to go through hard times a lot, and you can't make it go away by thinking that it's not happening, unless the entire thing is in your mind, but in this case, only your solution was mental. Also calling me a transphobe for not agreeing with you, doesn't make me a transphobe.
aggh no its my fault, I shouldnt have just assumed that comment was directed towards me. No, because none of the mods agree with you. The standard (i.e.
Now one more time, I do belive Alluka was born as male, and still does have a male body. So please, listen to what we're saying. We rely on what the Databook told us about the "five Zoldyck sons" and in the other side of the argument, people vehemently insist that Alluka is transgender. I realise this, and it would be much better for the transexual community and anime as a whole is Alluka was a girl, but it just isn't the case. So, since that conversation seems over and done with (thank you to everyone who backed me up), I'm gonna bring the thread back to something that I asked earlier (which, I feel, was derailed by all of that): An argument is "an exchange of diverging or opposite views, typically a heated or angry one. Funny, because those databook spellings (rather just Zoldyck anyway) was ignored if not retconned by Togashi with chapter 344. But most of the time they are girls, we definitely need to keep that in mind.
I *have* read all of the past comments, and some were right to call people out on being transphobic. I say that with no exaggeration or hyperbole. Her gender is actually a really awkward issue, since they could be merely wearing the girly cloths for Nanika's sake as they seem to care for Nanika greatly so much so they slapped Killua for shouting at Nanika.I am not saying they couldn't be a transgender, but I don't think there is much concrete evidence that seriously points towards that notion besides their dressing attire.
Because that's all we're doing at this point. The gender of a character should not be decided by the fans.
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